How do I know if my dental bone graft is healing properly or if it has failed? I was born without a number of permanent teeth, luckily all in the back of my mouth. In order to prepare for four dental implants, my oral surgeon said I needed to get bone grafts in those four areas due to the lack of supporting bone. I had the procedure done Monday, August 17 (nine days ago) in areas 3, 14, 19, and 30 with bovine material. I was told I would be able to return to work by Friday after having some pain and maybe swelling.
The remainder of surgery day wasn't bad, groggy from the anesthesia and I iced my face for 30 minutes every hour or so the entire day, not rinsing my mouth or spitting as told.
The day AFTER surgery, the pain was worse- which was expected. And the third day, I woke up in excruciating pain with my face completely swollen to my eyes and my right eye bruised and red. I could also finally open my mouth enough to look at the graft sites and noticed that the sutures on one spot had already disintegrated (after only three days) and it seemed to be open. I called my oral surgeon and he said to come in the following day. When he looked around my mouth (somewhat briefly) he said that everything was "healing beautifully" and that the amount of swelling and pain I was experiencing was not uncommon. He said the swelling should subside within a few days, and the pain (and rotten taste in my mouth) within a couple of weeks.
Each day since then, the swelling has completely vanished but the pain is still excruciating. I have been taking 800mg of ibuprofen prescribed to me every 6 hours on the minute- even having to wake up in the middle of every night to do so. I also noticed that the original graft area, where the sutures disappeared first and concerned me because it looked like an open hole, still looks that way. And that now three out of the four graft areas are actually like that, looking like big open holes. The past three mornings, I have also woken up with a very small amount of tiny crystal-feeling particles in my mouth, which makes me think that the grafting material is actually escaping the unclosed sites. Plus, whenever I rinse with warm saltwater- which I do 5 or more times a day (whenever I eat or drink anything besides water) since day two- the pain is 100x more excruciating and feels like it is stinging all the way under and around the teeth surrounding the graft sites, especially on my right side. I know the rinse is supposed to sting a tiny bit, but it's nine days after the procedure and it actually gets MORE painful instead of less.
I am a very healthy 26 year old. I do not smoke or drink, the teeth I do have are very healthy and big, I am never sick and never one to worry about health issues irrationally or have a low tolerance for pain. I have followed the exact protocol I was given to follow post-surgery and during the healing process. And I am honestly very worried that these bone grafts have, for some reason, failed- which is so discouraging for so many, many reasons..
I have searched and googled for hours trying to find some information on dental bone grafts and the healing process, especially photos showing what it should and shouldn't look like.. but I cannot find ANY website with any helpful information or photos, which is really surprising.
I made another appointment to see the oral surgeon tomorrow but figured I would try this route in hopes that someone who has gone through the experience, or even better, someone in the field of dentistry or oral surgery, could give advice and maybe even ease my mind or provide websites with information and pictures.
I have taken pictures of my bone graft sites and posted the links below. Again, this is nine days post-op dental bone grafts with disintegrating sutures and bovine material.
I appreciate anyone who has advice, who has gone through this, who may be a dental professional...
Does it seem like the grafts have failed and I am not healing properly? And why would this happen if I have followed every protocol I was given perfectly and have been exceptionally careful?
Also, if it did fail, do I still have to pay for the procedure? Would I need ANOTHER try at this or are there other, better options (because I do not want to go through this again- not to mention, I can't afford to miss work like this again)?
I greatly, greatly appreciate it. Thank you.
Photos (yes, I also have braces in order to make room for the grafts/implants)...
Lower:
Area 3 (only site with sutures still intact, underneath them is a "hole" though):
Area 14 (underneath the bubbles it is a big open hole):
Area 19 (this seems to be the only site healing well, to me):>
Dental4Less replied: "I do not know much at all about your problem but I hope that I have been able to find good website that can help you. this seems to me like a good web site to copy and paste your question on. Since the answers give are by dentist. I am not sure what there turn around time is.
Here is another site that seem to address some of the same issues that you have mansion.
I wish you well soon and please take care"
I had an Apicoectomy with barely any post op instructions??? I had an Apicoectomy (otherwise known as torture!) yesterday a.m. and all they told me was ice it and no hot/spicy foods. I didn't get antibiotics although I took them a couple of weeks before the surgery. I did ice all day yesterday but woke up the next day super swollen. I read that warm moist compress may help or should I still be icing? Should I worry abt. infection and what abt. cleaning my teeth? I'm taking 600mg ibuprofen, every 4-6 hrs. can I mix that with "hydrocodone"? Would appreciate advise from any pros out there!
oz_dreamer2001 replied: "You can take hydrocodone with ibuprofen, just so you know it has Tylenol in it so the combo will help the swelling more than the ibuprofen alone since both Tylenol and ibuprofen are anti-inflammatory meds. plus the hydrocodone is a good pain med. you already took your antibiotics, so don't worry about that right now. call your dentist about cleaning your teeth, and continue with the ice as that helps swelling more than heat."
Dr.Parveen Chopra replied: "Please relax....dont worry !! As a matter of fact there is no cause of any worry. Please don't do any ice-packs anymore....these are only useful only for a couple of hours after the surgery.
Yes, please take Ibuprofen......600mg if your doctor has told you about that. Otherwise, 400mg taken every 8 hourly is good enough.
Your dentist has chosen not to give you antibiotics....there might definitely some reasons for that. So, just follow what your doctor has advised.
Dont mix it Ibuprofen with Hydrocodone......it is not required.
Yes, you can start doing warm compresses....these will be very useful. And also please do start warm saline gargles every 2-3 hours....you will find these very soothing.
Dont worry much about swelling....it is bound to go in coming 2-3 or 3-4 days. So, just take it easy.
Please use Betadine gargle during this healing phase for 2-3 times a day.....out of which once should definitely be at the bedtime.
And still wonder what about oral hygiene........I feel you must use soft toothbrush for 4-5 days....and if tooth-brushing is just not possible for swelling or due to some other reason, just do use Chlorhexidine mouthwash for 2-3 days ..ya, as a substitute for tooth-brushing.
And one very important thing....eat well-balanced nutritious diet and stay away from all sorts of junk foods. Yes, definitely not spicy stuffs at least for a week.....by which time, generally, healing of the oral wound is OK.
So, smile and be happy!!"
Severe throbbing pain after wisdom teeth extraction? I had four impacted wisdom teeth removed on December 21st. In my opinion i took complete post operative care after the surgery. Followed my penicillin and anti swelling medication on schedule. Rinsed my mouth after eating any type of food. Got check 2 days after the surgery for swelling . Surgeon said i was making a splendid recovery. It is now the sixth day and i am having severe throbbing pain in my right side of the jaw. Non responsive to ibuprofen and percocet which i was prescribed. Checked for dry socket and it doesn't look like i have any. Any ideas how to deal with this till tommorow?
grandpa walleye replied: "I'll bet you have gotten a dry socket, especially if the percocet is not doing any good. There is not much relief you will get until the socket is packed with a medicated dressing. Try a percocet with an ibuprofen and see if that helps until tomorrow. good luck."
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what should i do to stay calm?? Hi everyone,
Three weeks ago I had a lumbar spinal fusion (for a slipped vertebrae). Today I went for my check-up with my surgeon, and I had alot of symptoms that I was concerned about. He thought I might have post traumatic stress. He said that he understood because I’m only 14, and found out I needed this surgery about 2 weeks before the actual surgery day. He said it should go away within a few weeks. The surgery went great, but I’m scared of something else might go wrong with my body again. This is mostly because I’m experiencing symptoms that he doesn’t know why their occurring (including shoulder numbness, and burning in my feet, and twitching). He thought that these symptoms might be occurring because of one of my medicine I was taking. So, he took me off of the medicine (now im only take ibuprofen, which is causing major back pain). Do you have any ideas that will help me calm down until then? (He told me he was going to speak with the neurologist that helped with my surgery, so I need help until he gets back with me…I need sleep!)
Sorry for the long paragraph (for the people who read it)
Thanks for all the helpful ideas in advanced.
**Shannon**
sorry i posted this question twice
Jayne S replied: "One good method to help calm yourself is to focus on your breathing. You don't need any medicine or equipment of any kind. Just pay attention to your breathing. This can actually take up a lot of attention so it tends to take your mind off the things that are bothering you. Try to breathe deeply and regularly.
It should help."
what are some of the negative side effects of having a molar removed? on thursday morning, i had to have one of my molars (#19) removed due to continual problems. i was given an antibiotic and pain reliever along with post op instructions on what to do after surgery. i've been doing as the instructions say, but unfortunately i'm not feeling relief. i've noticed that i can hardly open my mouth, and for the past 2 days, i've had a horrible taste in my mouth almost like a rotten, decaying taste. i do have some swelling on that side, and i've also noticed a lump underneath the extraction site. i forgot to ask the nurse for a copy of the papers i had to sign prior to surgery, these included possible things that could happen, and i remember being concerned with only one; dry sockets which i have experienced before. i'm planning on calling my oral surgeon tomorrow, i don't think what i'm experiencing right now is an extreme emergency. does anyone know of any other negative side effects from oral surgery? what else can the oral surgeon do? in addition to my rx meds, i'm alternating ibuprofen/tylenol and doing the salt water rinses, and as of today, using warm compresses. any advice/suggestions would be very much appreciated. thank you.
LX replied: "It can cause other teeth to move around it, and into its space, it can cause your bite to shift as these are anchor teeth."
Should I call the Dr.? I had a laparoscopy 8 days ago. I had endometriosis adhesions removed. I was told it wasn't bad. I also had one tube tied since the Dr. couldn't count to two when she did it 6 months ago. We found this out during the surgery. Anyway..I was given Dilaudid 2 mg. and Ibuprofen 800 mg. The Dilaudid was supposed to be taken for a few days..one every 4 hours. I am still hurting bad. I have had to take 2 Dilauded at a time. The ibuprofen does nothing. Today I have been having bad cramps (like menstrual cramps). I took Ibuprofen first. It didn't touch it. Then I took 2 Dilaudid. I am better, but am still in pain. Is this normal 8 days after surgery? Should I call the Dr.? I haven an appt. on Mon. for my post op.
I don't take narcotics normally. They make me very sick. I can't even take Vicodin. That is why he gave me Dilaudid. I take a lot of Ibuprofen.
They told me not to lift over 10 lbs. for 3-4 weeks. I think it was supposed to say 3-4 days. I have a 6 month old an a disabled 21 month old. I didn't lift my 6 month old for at least 4 days. I had him brought to me. I lifted my 21 month old after about 5 or 6 days. I haven't been doing much at all lately.
Kady Ann-
I had abdominal cramps for 8 months. It would get really bad right before my period. I would also get diarrhea right before which I just found out is a symptom. Bloating is a symptom too.
♥dream_angel♥ replied: "I don't think you should still be experiencing that much pain. I would definetly call the doctor,maybe you can go tomorrow. Good luck."
nursekuba replied: "I would call the doctor in the AM. Dilaudid is very strong pain medication and unless you are a habitual drug user you shouldn't be hurting that badly 8 days after surgery."
Yogi replied: "I have had two laparoscopys for endometriosis. I never take pain meds,(they make me sick) just ibuprofen. (careful.. use that strength too long and you could have sever ear ringing like I did. That made me stop it at that point.) I don't remember having intense pain that long afterward. It doesn't sound right to me. I would definitely let your doctor know. Did you do any strenuous activity too soon after surgery that might slow your healing?"
Kady Ann replied: "WHAT did you experience during endometrosis i think i may have it!?"
PrincipessaLHO replied: "Sorry you are in so much pain.
I would definitely recommend that you call your doctor/surgeon tomorrow at 9am sharp.
Sounds like you need another narcotic to help with the pain. Be careful with the ibuprofen because it can do damage to your stomach. Do not go over the prescribed amount and make sure you take it with food in your stomach.
If you cannot get an appointment tomorrow and the pain is the same OR worse, go to the ER or an urgent care center."

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