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Thursday 16th October 2008


CORPORATE POLICY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CABINET MEMBER MEETING

15 OCTOBER 2008

Report of the Corporate Director of Corporate and Adult Services

ITEM 6

GAYTON SWIMMING POOL

SUMMARY

1.1 The Court judgement requires the Council to carry out such works as to put and keep the Gayton Pool and changing rooms in good repair and to reach agreement with the Community Association by 18 October 2008 to avoid the need for the Court to appoint an ‘expert’ to determine the works necessary. Further detailed work on possible options has now been carried out and the best option is to replace the whole of the building and changing rooms with a new building detached from the Community Centre. The estimated cost of this proposal is in the region of £1 million.

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RECOMMENDATION

2.1 To approve the replacement of Gayton Pool with a new facility at an estimated cost of £1 million

SUPPORTING INFORMATION

3.1 Initial feasibility studies looking at various options for the remedial work to Gayton Pool have now been completed by our engaged consultants Faithful and Gould.

Options considered

3.2 Refurbishment of the existing pool cover (building): This option has been discounted as any substantial work to the pool building would require Building

Regulation approval and compliance, particularly with Part L, would be difficult to achieve. The option would only provide a short term solution, is likely to be unsightly

and is unlikely to be accepted by the Community Association.

3.3 Construct new pool cover and new changing facilities, retaining existing pool

tank: This option provides for a new purpose built structure detached from the Community Centre. This option has been discounted as retaining the pool tank would

compromise the design of the building on what is already a tight site and specialist protective measures would be required to the pool tank during construction. 2

3.4 Construct new pool cover, link block and retain and refurbish existing (Vic Hallam) changing rooms:

This was thought to be the most appropriate option when budget provision of £600 000 was made in July 2008. However, although refurbishment would extend the

life of the changing rooms, further on-going maintenance is likely to be necessary and it is likely that major refurbishment/ renewal would be required within the life of a new

Pool building. The estimated cost for this option is £726 000. Costs have increased from the original budget estimate of £600 000 partly because of the need to:

rebuild the link block (only the changing rooms, part of the original Vic Hallam building attached to the community building, and the pool tank would be retained)

and as a consequence renew the plant

accommodate disabled changing and toilet provision. There are a number of other potential issues with this solution:

the existing pool tank, to be retained, would bring similar construction difficulties as outlined in 3.3

lifecycle including on-going maintenance costs will be higher for the retained changing rooms

the pool tank may prove to be a problem

the connection of new to existing pipework serving the pool would create a weak point and on-going maintenance issues

because of the need to accommodate disabled toilets, the building footprint will have to change and this may cause planning issues

the Community Centre fire escape will continue to be through the pool building.

3.5 Construct a completely new detached building, including pool tank and changing rooms

This option is based on a pool of the same size as the existing, 15.5 m x 7.0m x 900mm deep. The overall building plan is approximately 50m2 larger than the original

footprint to provide a better layout, disabled changing and toilets, larger plant and reception rooms. The building will be detached from the existing Community Centre.

Options for the construction are:

Form of construction Estimated costs £

1 Traditional: brick/block walls with steel trusses and tile roof. £1 035 000

2 Scape Technology (formerly CLASP)

2a) steel frame brickwork clad, metal profile curved roof £910 000

2b) as 2a but with prefabricated wall panels £940 000

3 Pinelog (Timber framed construction) £905 000

3.6 All of the above costs are budget estimates. It may be possible to reduce the costs as the design develops, depending on such issues as management (requirement for office/ reception).

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Programme

3.7 Design and construction time is likely to be in the region of at least 12 months depending on the option selected, and the procurement route chosen. The timetable for the works has to be agreed with the Community Association

Consultation with Community Association

3.8 Preliminary discussions to discuss options available are to be held with the Community Association between this report being written and this meeting. The

outcome of these discussions will be reported orally at the meeting.

Recommendation

3.9 Because of the uncertainty of the lifespan of the retained Vic Hallam changing rooms, pool tank and associated plant/pipe work and the other issues identified in the report,

the most appropriate and value for money solution is considered to be the new build option outlined in paragraph 3.5.

3.10 Of the new build options, Pinelog guarantees their structure for 10 years. It is proposed that this option is discounted because of the potentially lower lifecycle costs

of more traditional structures and that the traditional / Scape options are further developed. The Scape option has lower estimated construction cost and potentially

shorter procurement time than traditional construction. Current projects using current Scape technology can be visited if required.

Management

3.11 Options for the management of the Pool are under discussion. These will be targeted at maximising the use of the Pool to provide a sustainable facility, whilst meeting the

lease obligation to the Community Association.

For more information contact:

Background papers:

List of appendices:

Chris Edwards 01332 255070 e-mail chris.edwards@derby.gov.uk

Faithful and Gould options report

Appendix 1 – Implications

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Appendix 1

IMPLICATIONS

Financial

1.1 Cabinet approved that £600 000 be allocated for the repair of the pool at the 29 July 2008 meeting. This cost was based on retaining the existing pool tank and changing

rooms. As detailed in the preceding paragraphs, the best option is to replace the whole facility at a cost of around £1 million. The additional £400,000 can be funded

from unsupported borrowing released by the failure of the Heritage Lottery Fund application for the Silk Mill. The Council had set aside £1.187m in 2009/10 and

£1.188m in 2010/11 as match funding towards this project. It is clear now that, with the failure of the Lottery bid, this scheme will not proceed within the planned

timescales. There would still be £1.975m of Council funding potentially available to contribute to a revised future scheme for the Silk Mill, subject to a new business case

being submitted and approved and the overall capital programme being affordable.

Legal

2.1 The work is necessary to meet the terms of the Court Order

Personnel

3.1 None

Equalities Impact

4.1 The new building will provide improved facilities for disabled people, including changing and toilet facilities.

Corporate objectives and priorities for change

5.1 The proposal supports the corporate priorities make everyone proud of our neighbourhoods, leading Derby towards a better environment (the new building

will be much more energy efficient than the previous facility) and help everyone to be healthy, active and independent.



Friday 10th October 2008


The council have 8 days left until their deadline (ordered by the Court), to make a decision on what the future plans for Gayton Pool are.
 
The following article was published in the Derby Evening Telegraph on Friday 10th October 2008;
 

GAYTON swimming pool could be completely rebuilt under £1m plans being considered by Derby City Council.

The pool was closed last year because the then Labour-led authority said it would cost too much to repair the ageing pool enclosure.

But members of Gayton Community Association, which owns a building adjoining the pool, took the council to Birmingham County Court, because it said its leasehold agreement specified the council had to maintain the pool building.

 

The campaigners won their case in July – forcing the council to pay the community association £9,500 in general damages and agree to repair the building.

 

The council, now run by Liberal Democrats who campaigned to save the building when they were in opposition, set aside £600,000 for repairs.

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But council leader Hilary Jones has revealed she is now considering completely rebuilding the pool. A decision will be made on Wednesday when she discusses the plan with senior officers. The proposal could be challenged by opposition parties.

 

Mrs Jones said: "We believe we have a solution that meets everyone's needs. This new facility, if agreed, will mean Gayton Pool will be a modern, attractive, purpose-built swimming facility that the community can be proud of. "There are many benefits to looking at a new build rather than a refurbishment. "These include that the new pool will meet Disability Discrimination Act requirements, it will have new changing rooms, new tiled pool and plant machinery, and it will be more energy efficient and therefore cheaper to maintain. "A complete rebuild will mean the pool has a life span beyond that which any repair works would have given it".

 

Council officers have said that replacing the whole building and pool would be the best option because they could not guarantee how long the changing rooms and pool would last. The pool will be the same 15.5m by 7m size as the existing one but the building would be larger to give a better layout. The plan has been welcomed by the community association.

 

Secretary Chris Harrington said: "We are delighted with this proposal, as it will mean people from the local community will have an excellent pool where their children can learn to swim in an attractive and safe environment. "We only ever wanted to preserve a valuable asset for the local schoolchildren, and indeed the wider community, and we have achieved this."

 

The extra money will come from cash the council had set aside to refurbish the Silk Mill. That work must now be postponed after a bid to the Heritage Lottery Fund for £5m towards the museum project was rejected this week.



Monday 21st July 2008


Information made by Chris Harrington, the secretary of Gayton Community Association.


More information from Chris Harrington...


Further information from Chris Harrington.


Updates from Chris Harrington.


Further updates from Chris Harrington.


Latest update from Chris H.


Friday 18th July 2008


The decision is made by Court that Derby City Council must pay damages of £9,500 to Gayton Community Association. They must also pay for and complete repairs to Gayton Pool and adjoining changing rooms as soon as is practicable. OUR BATTLE IS FINALLY WON!!!
 
Picture courtesy of the Derby Evening Telegraph at www.thisisderbyshire.co.uk
 


Thursday 3rd July 2008


The BBC came to film for their 'Inside Out' programme about pool closures across the UK. Sharron Davies was the star of the show!
Sharron Davies (left), Wanda Osborne (right)



Monday 30th June 2008
 


The BCAG group hears that the Judge of the Court hearing has revealed his intentions to have the announcement of the decision on Gayton Pool embargoed until 11am on Friday 18th July 2008. On this day at this time a decision will be announced to the public (we are not sure how or where this will happen as yet) and the long wait since 10th December 2007 will be over at last!


Tuesday 15th April 2008


This is a copy of the lease between Derby City Council and the Trustees of Gayton Community Association which I obtained under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. The 1st page shows details of the date of the agreement, the 2nd and 3rd pages (below) show the 'Landlords Covenants' (the landlord being Derby City Council). It shows in point 5.2 that the Council are 'To keep the Pool and Changing Rooms in good repair and condition throughout the Term and ensure that it is safe to use...'
In 2003, structural reports conducted for the Council showed there was around £10,000 needed to be spent on repairs. The Council ignored these findings for 3 years until 2006 when their engineers apparently found so much of the building in need of repair that they insist the pool building must be closed as it has reached it's 'out of service' date.


2nd page of interest.


3rd page of interest.


Wednesday 5th March 2008


This story was printed in the Daily Telegraph 'sports' section on Wednesday 5th March 2008 by Sandy Macaskill.


Tuesday 5th February 2008


CITY COUNCIL BOOKS MEETINGS AT CENTRE IT HAS CONDEMNED
BY CATHERINE OAKES AND CHRIS MALLETT
COAKES@DERBYTELEGRAPH.CO.UK
Campaigners have been left stunned after Derby City Council announced it would hold meetings in a community centre it has deemed beyond repair. The centre is attached by a partition wall to Gayton Junior School's swimming pool and changing rooms in Littleover.

Last year, the council said it wanted to demolish the entire site because it said the buildings were unsafe.
But it will not be able to knock down the community centre without permission from Gayton Community Association, which has vowed to keep the building standing until its lease runs out in 2013. Now Derby City Council has amazed the association by asking to use the centre for neighbourhood forum meetings.

Chris Harrington, the association's secretary, said he was surprised when the authority rang him to make the bookings. He said: "It was surprising, given the circumstances. "We're quite pleased actually. It shows what a lot of hot air the council are blowing and that there is nothing wrong with the centre." Wanda Osborne, a member of Blagreaves Community Action Group, which also uses the centre, was also shocked by the latest turn of events. She said: "It seems rather ironic that they want to have meetings in a part of a building that they want to knock down. For them to book a venue that they think is beyond repair has left us feeling quite confused."

On the council's website, it states that neighbourhood meetings for the Blagreaves ward will be held at the Gayton Avenue Centre, in Littleover, at 6.30pm tomorrow and on April 30. Liberal Democrat councillor Bob Troupe, whose Blagreaves ward includes Gayton Junior School, said his party was against any of the buildings being knocked down. He said: "The centre is perfectly safe and is a pleasant place to meet. The council obviously agree, since they've made these bookings." No-one from the city council's Labour or Conservative parties, who want the demolition to happen, was able to comment yesterday.

The fate of Gayton pool was battled out at a five-day High Court hearing last month. City council engineers said the authority could not afford to pay for necessary repairs, which would cost £3m. But campaigners who want to keep the pool open said that the cost of making the building safe would be about £110,000. The judge is expected to rule on the case in March and, if he rules in the council's favour, the pool and its changing rooms could be knocked down straight away. Michael Foote, the city council's director of corporate adult services, said it would be possible to knock down the pool and leave the community centre unaffected. He said: "All we would need to do is make sure the exposed gable on the community centre is made watertight."


Wednesday 6th February 2008


The latest newsletter from Gayton Community Association Feb 2008.


Thursday 7th February 2008


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This article was written in the Derby Trader on Thursday 7th February 2008 by Amy Watkins.