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and Denethor, and Boromir; and there is this: to live on physically round Land. But whole 'legendarium contains transition from flat world (or at least once? with border all about this) in globe: inevitable transition, I suppose, in modern 'myth-manufacturer with wit subjected to same 'appearances as ancient men, and partly. was round since the most west all mortal lands, and eventually Sem (as obscured Frodo); and since unique exception Gimli Dwarves, as friend Legolas and 'servants Galadriel. I have said nothing about this in this time, - a Fall Numenor: special row to traditions Atlantisa. This seems me such fundamental in 'mythical history'.